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Stop Martin Stop Evil

Posted in By Linda, The MacNeill Story on March 18th, 2011 by admin – 1 Comment

The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.
Albert Einstein

He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it. Martin Luther King, Jr.

I found these quotes on the subject of evil and evil people.  It made me ponder and I thought to myself, how true.  I love the insight of these brilliant men in our history.  I do know however that fear, intimidation, control and other things paralyze people at times making it so they “don’t do anything about it”  or others for whatever reason,  just “accept” it.  I have been guilty of this as well.  It could be because the person has threatened you or you may feel ashamed or scared.  Whatever the reason may be, fear, guilt, shame, etc…I believe the agony continues inside you because of this evil which is not a very happy peaceful way to live.  It needs to be stopped.  If you have any information or know something I urge you to come forth.  If for nothing else for your own peace of mind.  You can remain anonymous  if you wish.  I want you to know that sometimes  something small that you may think is nothing leads to a piece of a bigger puzzle.  Anything is appreciated.  Please respond to this blog if you know something.  We need to stop evil.  We need to break the silence.  It is hard to be brave, but in the long run it will set you free.

Thank-you, Linda

Are you a Victim from Utah State Developmental Center?

Posted in By Linda, The MacNeill Story on March 18th, 2011 by admin – Be the first to comment

Martin MacNeill was the former director of the Utah State Developmental Center.  He had the opportunity to abuse so many for years at this facility.  I believe Martin did so.  I believe there are victims out there that have not come forward.  He also had access not only to victims, but to medication.  His stage there made his abilities to harm others limitless.  If you were a victim in anyway or know of someone who was please speak up by responding to this blog.  I am trying to find as much information out on behalf on my sister Michele and others as well who may have fallen prey to Martin MacNeill-Linda.

HLN Transcript: Nancy Grace – Utah Physician Under Suspicion in Bathtub Death of Wife

Posted in The MacNeill Story on December 9th, 2010 by admin – Be the first to comment

NANCY GRACE

Utah Physician Under Suspicion in Bathtub Death of Wife

Aired December 7, 2010 – 20:00:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight, live, Utah. An emergency 911 call from a doctor desperately trying to save his wife when he finds her unconscious, under water in the bedroom bathtub, the mother of eight just eight days out of a full facelift. After interviewing her husband, a doctor and director of a prestigious developmental clinic, the ME rules natural death.

But now nearly two years of a full-fledged affair with a younger woman uncovered. The doctor brings the woman into the home as the new nanny. Plus, we learn about decades of forging his way all the way to a medical degree, skimming government money, house loans, and even his dead wife`s estate.

Bombshell tonight. In a stunning twist, the case reopened. Tonight, will a prominent doctor/lawyer get away with his wife`s murder?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: Pleasant Grove Police Department.

MARTIN MACNEILL: I need — I need an ambulance!

911 OPERATOR: OK, what`s the problem, sir? We need medical. Sir, what`s wrong?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Martin MacNeill`s wife, Michele, had plastic surgery. Eight days later, she was dead.

MACNEILL: She just had surgery a couple of days, a week ago!

911 OPERATOR: What kind of surgery did she have?

MACNEILL: She had a facelift.

911 OPERATOR: She had a facelift?

MACNEILL: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The death originally ruled as a result of natural causes, but for many family and friends, things just didn`t sit right.

MACNEILL: My wife`s fallen in the bathtub!

911 OPERATOR: Who`s in the bathtub? Who`s in the bathtub?

MACNEILL: My wife!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: MacNeill, a doctor, had reportedly made special arrangements with the surgeon to obtain a peculiar mix of medications.

MACNEILL: I`m a physician. I need help!

I`m a physician. I`ve got CPR in progress!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: And tonight, after a dream wedding, a romantic honeymoon and couples` dive trip turns deadly. There in the clear blue waters far below the surface, the blushing bride sinks to the ocean floor while the groom manages to make it to the top to breathe the fresh air, and then goes home to collect what he believes will be a big, fat insurance check.

Breaking tonight: Shortly after the groom moves on and remarries immediately, the U.S., specifically the great state of Alabama, brings the groom back to home turf for murder.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You never think that your daughter would leave for her honeymoon and her husband will kill her.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tina was 26.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Dave Watson originally told police Tina got caught in strong currents and panicked.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: His story of what happened that day changed 16 times.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Initially, it had been what appeared to be an accident.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tried, convicted and imprisoned for killing his newlywed wife in 2003.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I really believe that there`s a lot more to it than that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Money was a motive.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Group insurance that she carried at work.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was a qualified rescue diver.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He spent just 18 months in a Brisbane jail.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Until he actually faces the evidence for the first time.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Dave Watson.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Dave Watson.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Dave Watson.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Back in Alabama.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In a criminal trial before a jury.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Awaiting his first court appearance in his home state.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There can be no rest or no peace for anyone in our family.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: Good evening. I`m Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being with us. Bombshell tonight, live, Utah. An emergency 911 call from a medical doctor desperately trying to save his wife when he says he finds her unconscious, submerged, under water, in the bedroom bathtub. After the ME rules a natural death, in a stunning twist, the case reopened. Tonight, will a prominent doctor/lawyer get away with murder?

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: Pleasant Grove Police Department.

MACNEILL: I need — I need an ambulance!

911 OPERATOR: OK, what`s the problem, sir? We need medical. Sir, what`s wrong?

MACNEILL: My wife`s fallen in the bathtub!

911 OPERATOR: Who`s in the bathtub? Who`s in the bathtub?

MACNEILL: My wife!

911 OPERATOR: OK, is she conscious?

MACNEILL: She`s not. I`m a physician. I need help! (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: Sir, sir, I need you to calm down. Sir, I can`t understand you, OK? Can you calm down just a little bit?

MACNEILL: I need help!

911 OPERATOR: OK, what — your wife is unconscious?

MACNEILL: She is unconscious. She`s under water.

911 OPERATOR: OK, did you get her out of the water?

MACNEILL: I can`t! I just (INAUDIBLE) I let the water out (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: She`s under the water?

MACNEILL: She`s under the water, and I need an ambulance!

911 OPERATOR: OK, is she breathing at all?

MACNEILL: She`s not!

911 OPERATOR: OK, sir, the ambulance has been paged. They`re on their way, OK? Do not hang up.

MACNEILL: Why?

911 OPERATOR: What? Sir?

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

MACNEILL: Hello?

911 OPERATOR: Sir, this is 911. Can I help you?

MACNEILL: I need help!

911 OPERATOR: OK, sir, they`re on their way. Is your wife breathing?

MACNEILL: She is not! I am a physician. I`ve got CPR in progress! (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: You`re doing CPR?

(CROSSTALK)

911 OPERATOR: Sir, how old is your wife?

MACNEILL: My wife is 50 years old. She just had surgery a couple of days, a week ago.

911 OPERATOR: What kind of surgery did she have?

MACNEILL: She had a facelift.

911 OPERATOR: She had a facelift?

MACNEILL: Yes.

911 OPERATOR: OK, do you know how to do CPR?

MACNEILL: I`m doing it!

911 OPERATOR: OK, do not hang…

(END AUDIO CLIP)

GRACE: We are taking your calls. Straight out to Jim Kirkwood joining us from Salt Lake City, Utah, KTKK talk show host. Jim, amazing! Just listen to that 911 call. I see so many problems. Is he actually — this is a medical doctor stating that she`s submerged under water while he`s on the phone? That`s what he said.

JIM KIRKWOOD, KTKK RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: That`s what he said. And it`s unbelievable. He would know better, pull her out and do CPR. That`s what he should have been doing instead of calling 911.

GRACE: And then — I mean, put yourself in this position. Let me go to you, Jean Casarez. Jean Casarez, he`s saying he`s trying to save his wife. Think about it, Jean! And he`s answering the phone? Hello? I don`t get it. Why would you answer the phone while you`re trying to save your wife`s life?

JEAN CASAREZ, “IN SESSION”: And that`s something that came out afterwards because when, finally, paramedics arrived, there was water that was coming out of the lungs. And it was determined through investigation that if there had been proper CPR and attention at that moment, the water would already be out of the lungs when the paramedics had arrived.

GRACE: You know, there was also water coming out of her stomach. There are so many inconsistencies and discrepancies here. This is a very prominent doctor and lawyer who served with our American military.

I`m going to go back to Jim Kirkwood. We`re really getting ahead of ourselves but the big story is the case is now reopened. How this was ever deemed an accident, how this guy has skated along for this long without charges, I don`t know. Let me get down to the basics. Mr. Kirkwood, where was the husband at the time that morning, when all this — when she fell into the bathtub? Where was he?

KIRKWOOD: He had to have been there because he was there right away to help her. And that`s the question. And then the weird mix of drugs he was giving her that the attending physician didn`t understand. This is a really strange story, Nancy.

GRACE: Well, another inconsistency that I`ve been closely looking at. Jean Casarez, isn`t it true that he went to some type of a safety fair that morning, leaving his wife, eight days out of surgery? She was all worried he was having an affair, so she rushes in to get a full facelift. Of course, turns out now, he was having an affair. I`ll get to that later. But he leaves her alone in the home. He goes to a safety fair. He didn`t need to go to. There, doesn`t he become belligerent with one of the employees and then insist his photo be taken to show he`s at the safety fair?

CASAREZ: Exactly. He was very stressed. He was belligerent. He made sure he had his picture taken. And Nancy, when he went back home, that`s when he says he found his wife unconscious in the bathtub. Cause of death at that time, hypertension and cardiovascular disease. The heart just stopped beating.

But what they didn`t know at that time, that that facelift that happened eight days ago — that he was responsible for giving her the medication when she came home from the hospital, and now that cause of death has been changed to include drug toxicity.

GRACE: You know, another issue, Jean Casarez, is the number of drugs. It`s my understanding — look at all that! Lortab, Ambien, Oxycodone, Valium and more. But the attending physician who treated the wife says he would never have given all that, except the husband, who is a physician, told him to, and that he personally, the husband, would monitor the intake of her drugs. Isn`t that true, Jean Casarez?

CASAREZ: Yes, and investigators didn`t know that at the time they did the initial autopsy and the cause of death. But that was critically important for them to now change that cause of death. And Nancy, remember, he`s a doctor and a lawyer. He`s immensely respected in the community.

GRACE: Well, hold on. Hold on. Let me just address that very quickly. Joining me right now out of Salt Lake City, Utah, is a very special guest. This is a woman who never let go of this case, and now she has broken this story. Her name, Sarah Lenz, reporter with “The Deseret News.” (SIC) She`s has broken the story on Dr. Martin MacNeill and the death of his wife, Michele, an absolute beauty. She was a beauty queen, gave birth to four of his children, adopted four more children. When she started suspecting he was having an affair, she runs out and gets a facelift. Now she`s dead.

To you, Sarah Lenz. Number one, thank you for being with us. I`ve read your article, an extensive article. How did you find out about the girlfriend, Gypsy Willis? I`m not making that name up.

SARAH LENZ, “DESERET MORNING NEWS”: No, you`re not. Well, I got, actually, a — it was a document from the state, from the Utah County attorney`s office, about the time when she and Martin were both charged for the identity theft. And I kind of just kept looking into it, kept finding more and more. It looked interesting to me, and just kept looking more into it, talked to the family and found out that he had been living, basically, years of lies.

GRACE: And Sarah Lenz, isn`t it true he brings the lover, the girlfriend, Gypsy Willis, in, posing as a nanny, even taking his daughter to temple, telling her to pray for a new nanny, then setting up the nanny to meet them on the steps right after Mommy dies.

LENZ: Yes. That`s true.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

MACNEILL: My wife`s fallen in the bathtub.

911 OPERATOR: Who`s in the bathtub? Who`s in the bathtub?

MACNEILL: My wife!

(END AUDIO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did the doctor murder his wife?

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: OK, is she conscious?

MACNEILL: She`s not. I`m a physician. I need help!

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did the doctor murder his wife?

911 OPERATOR: OK, what — your wife is unconscious?

MACNEILL: She is unconscious. She is under water.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Authorities now reviewing possible homicide charges for the death of Michele MacNeill, who suddenly died after a routine cosmetic surgery procedure while in the care of her husband.

911 OPERATOR: OK, did you get her out of the water?

MACNEILL: I can`t (INAUDIBLE) I let the water out (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just days before her death, a daughter reportedly claims, she heard her parents argue over allegations of an affair.

911 OPERATOR: She`s under the water?

MACNEILL: She`s under the water, and I need an ambulance!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The day his wife died, MacNeill reportedly made many inconsistent statements about the way his wife died. 911 dispatchers say he acted aggressive, angry, and condescending.

911 OPERATOR: OK, is she breathing at all?

MACNEILL: She`s not!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: We are taking your calls. Straight out to Sandy in New Jersey. Hi, Sandy.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Nancy. I would like to know how the lawyer`s going to explain how he was doing CPR, making a phone call and her being under water all at the same time.

GRACE: Great question. Let`s unleash the lawyers. Joining us out of Atlanta, Raymond Giudice, defense attorney, famed attorney John Burris, defense attorney, joining us out of San Francisco. What about it, Giudice?

RAYMOND GIUDICE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Tough problem. And he`s got another problem in that generally, in CPR, you can`t have someone sitting up or leaning in a tub. The right way for a doctor to do CPR would have gotten her flat on her back. And there`s some physical evidence about the pooling of blood that indicates she wasn`t flat on her back. So the caller has properly identified defense counsel`s, meaning me, biggest problem.

GRACE: OK, Ray, Ray, Ray…

GIUDICE: Yes. How am I going to do it?

GRACE: Not what I asked you!

GIUDICE: I`m going to come up with some — well…

GRACE: You`ve just restated what I have already told you and what the caller asked. Now give me an answer!

GIUDICE: Well, when you properly identify a problem, I want to give you credit for it. But what I`m going to do is try to set up a way that he could have done CPR with her in the tub. I`m sure we can find an expert that could show it was possible.

GRACE: Yes, you know who you ought to call, John Burris? How about Conrad Murray, Michael Jackson`s lawyer (SIC), who tried the same thing. Yes. Nobody believes that.

JOHN BURRIS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: That`s (INAUDIBLE). Well, you know, that`s mean. But I will say that I think he is right…

GRACE: No! What`s mean is lying…

BURRIS: If I`m in that situation…

GRACE: … about CPR and letting somebody die! That`s mean.

BURRIS: I know, but…

GRACE: Me pointing it out is not mean!

BURRIS: The names you gave. But look, the lawyer — if you`re on the case, look, you got to figure out how to handle this. You do have to get an expert, some biomechanic, biophysicist, somebody to help you explain this. Otherwise, yes, you`re just accepting the prosecution`s theory. But that`s not the defense lawyer`s job. The job is to find a way to see if you can say that it can possibly be done, and that requires the expert who can help you do this. And without that, obviously, you`re in deep trouble. But you do have to find someone help offer some kind of explanation as to the possibility of this taking place.

GRACE: Back to Jean Casarez, legal correspondent, “In Session.” I want to hear from you and Sarah about his long history of lying. When I found out he was a doctor, I said, A doctor of what? Where did he go to medical school? I found out it was Guadalajara. I mean, he went from — where — Liz, put up that full screen. Where all did this guy leapfrog back into from — said he was hearing voices in the military. He worked at various locations, finally got his degree in Guadalajara, as I recall.

But specifically, Jean, as we put this up, I want to hear about the girlfriend, the 32, 34-year-old girlfriend. Here he is, 54, I believe. Where did Gypsy Willis enter the scene?

CASAREZ: Well, way before Michele passed away, friends and relatives say that she knew and she believed that he had a woman on the side, and there were a lot of arguments between the two of them. After Michele died, when she was gone, almost immediately, he told the family, Let`s go to the temple and pray for a nanny to come. They went to the temple. Out walks this woman, and there`s the nanny. She becomes the nanny. But she`s also the girlfriend.

GRACE: OK, wait! Wa-wait!

CASAREZ: And she moves in shortly after that.

GRACE: Put Jean back up. Are you telling me — let me get this straight — he takes the family, the children, into the temple to pray, tells them to pray for a new nanny. Then he sets up a meeting where his girlfriend, his mistress, is standing there on the front steps of the temple and goes, Hi, and the children think their prayers have been answered.

CASAREZ: Exactly. Exactly. Investigators say part of the premeditated plan.

GRACE: OK, you know what? I`m going to put him in jail for that alone!

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

911 OPERATOR: OK, what — your wife is unconscious?

MACNEILL: She is unconscious. She is under water!

911 OPERATOR: OK, did you get her out of the water?

MACNEILL: I can`t! (INAUDIBLE) I let the water out (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: She`s under the water?

(END AUDIO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Questions swirling about MacNeill`s behavior before and after his wife`s death.

MACNEILL: I need — I need an ambulance! (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: “The Deseret News” reporting the morning his wife died, an employee reportedly filed a complaint against him, saying he was acting, quote, “belligerent and nervous.”

911 OPERATOR: Sir, what`s wrong?

MACNEILL: My wife`s fallen in the bathtub!

911 OPERATOR: OK, is she conscious?

MACNEILL: She`s not. I`m a physician. I need help!

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: How many times is he going to tell the 911 operator, I`m a doctor, I`m a physician? OK, let`s talk about the scene, the scene that they found, the EMTs found when they got there. To Jim Kirkwood, talk show host, KTKK, joining us out of Salt Lake. For those of you just joining us, a prominent doctor and lawyer — has he gotten away with the murder of his wife? Jim, what did they find when they arrived at the home?

KIRKWOOD: Well, apparently, there`s a bunch of different stories from him. But they found her. She still had some undergarments on. He claimed she was in the tub, claimed she was leaning over. The problem with this guy is these stories. They`re so different to different people.

GRACE: Like what? What`s the discrepancies?

KIRKWOOD: One, that she was in the tub, under water except for her feet. Another, that she was leaning over the tub with only her head in the water. Another one is she was partially clothed, which is weird if you`re in a tub. I`ve never done that, but maybe someone does. This kind of thing, Nancy. It`s very strange.

GRACE: And you know, another discrepancy, I want to go out to Burris and Giudice. First to you, Burris. The neighbor said he told her or that she understood the wife, Michele, was fully clothed. No, no, no, no. The child, the little girl, who the doctor says he leaves in the car — why would he leave the child in the car, number one? He comes in and finds his wife. The little girl says Mommy`s fully clothed. The neighbor says Daddy told her she only had an undergarment, a camisole or a bra, on. That`s a big discrepancy. What do you do with all these discrepancies at trial, Burris?

BURRIS: Well, obviously, having all these inconsistency statements will hurt him drastically, so you try to figure out if they can find where there`s some corroborating evidence on some of these individual statements. It may be that the totality of what was going on at the time had him pretty flustered. Maybe they`re not statements that are premeditated, they`re a function of trying to understand and figure out what`s going on at the time. So I wouldn`t necessarily — they`re necessarily consistent with guilt. It may be the circumstance were happening so fast that he couldn`t remember everything, every little detail.

GRACE: You know, Ray Giudice, the statements are drastically inconsistent. And you know, Ray, I can understand a witness adding to a story as they recall, but changing the story is a different matter, Giudice.

GIUDICE: Listen, as John points out, this is a frantic emergency situation. As circumstances got calm, he was able to more fully and accurately remember what happened.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: Pleasant Grove Police Department.

MARTIN MACNEILL, HUSBAND: I need — I need an ambulance.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. What`s the problem, sir?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We need medical.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: Sir, what`s wrong?

MACNEILL: My wife`s fallen in the bathtub.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: Who`s in the bathtub? Who`s in the bathtub?

MACNEILL: My wife.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. Is she conscious?

MACNEILL: She`s not. I`m a physician.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: Yes, sir.

MACNEILL: I need help.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: Sir, I needed you to calm — sir, I can`t understand you, OK? Can you calm down just a little bit?

MACNEILL: I need help.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK, what — your wife is unconscious?

MACNEILL: She is unconscious. She`s under water.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. Did you get her out of the water?

MACNEILL: I can`t. (INAUDIBLE). I let the water out. She`s (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: She`s under the water?

MACNEILL: She`s out of the water. Now when will you give me that ambulance?

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. Is she breathing at all?

MACNEILL: She`s not!

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK, sir. The ambulance has been paged. They`re on their way, OK? Do not hang up.

MACNEILL: (INAUDIBLE)

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: What? Sir? Why would an adult female be –

MACNEILL: Hello!

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: Sir, this is 911. Can I help you?

MACNEILL: I need help!

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. Sir, they`re on their way. Is your wife breathing?

MACNEILL: She is not! I am a physician. I`ve got CPR in progress!

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: You`re doing CPR.

(CROSSTALK)

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: Sir, how old is your wife?

MACNEILL: My wife is 50 years old. She just had surgery a couple of days, a week ago.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: What kind of surgery did she have?

MACNEILL: Got a facelift.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: She had a facelift?

MACNEILL: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. Do you know how to do CPR?

MACNEILL: I`m doing it!

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. Do not hang –

(END OF VIDEO CLIP)

NANCY GRACE, HOST: We are taking your calls. To Carol in New York. Hi, Carol.

CAROL, CALLER FROM NEW YORK: Hi, Nancy. Welcome back.

GRACE: Thank you.

CAROL: I would like to know — with all these inconsistent statements, it seems obvious but are they going to be able to get a murder charge without any physical evidence?

GRACE: Well, you know, let`s talk about the physical evidence, Carol.

I want to go out to special guest Dr. Joshua Perper, the chief medical examiner out of Broward County, author of a second book, “When Doctors Kill.” Dr. Perper joining us out of Miami.

Dr. Perper, thank you for being with us. I need to understand something more fully. Apparently water came out of not only her lungs, but her stomach when the EMTs got there. What does that say to you?

DR. JOSHUA PERPER, MEDICAL EXAMINER, AUTHOR OF “WHEN DOCTORS KILL”: Well, that obviously she was — she ingested the water when she was under the water, because when people are asphyxiated or drowned, they try to breathe and then in their attempts, water enter both in the airway and in the stomach.

And that`s one of the signs in the syndrome or the process of drowning. So this would be consistent with ingesting water from the — from the tub. But this is –

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: OK. I`m trying to take this in. She not only swallowed water, but she inhaled water.

Doctor, another confusing — maybe it`s not so confusing — scenario that he gave many times was that she was half in and half out of the tub. For instance, she was trying to get — her head was in the water but her legs and feet were out of the water.

I don`t understand. The water must have been that deep for her to get her whole head under there to breathe it in, to ingest it in as well. And why would all that have still been in her if he had performed CPR? Doctor?

PERPER: Yes. Well, the CPR would be performed, most of the water which came out — would come out, but on the second attempt, so-called second attempt, there would not be any more water to be expelled from the stomach because whatever could have been expelled was expelled assuming that over several minutes, he tried to resuscitate her. So –

GRACE: So the fact that all this water –

PERPER: — most likely, there was no such –

GRACE: The fact, Doctor, that all this water, Dr. Perper, was expelled when the EMTs got there tells me that he did not perform CPR on her, even a novice that performs CPR on a drowning victim –

PERPER: Exactly.

GRACE: — water pours out of your nose and mouth. It just pours out when you start pumping.

PERPER: Absolutely.

GRACE: So why was so much water still in her stomach and lungs?

PERPER: Well, because you cannot take all the water out of the stomach and the lungs. There`s still something left there. And nobody really tested for drugs in the stomach and they don`t know what is the concentration of the drugs in the blood. And one of those medications –

GRACE: No, they do. They do, Doctor. They do. They just simply have not released it. We do know that they found four different drugs in her blood stream but we don`t know what they are. But we do know the four drugs that were prescribed to her. Lortab, Ambien, Oxycodone and Valium.

Another issue, Dr. Perper, if she — let`s go with his story that her whole body was in. That`s the story he told when he had 911 on the phone, that she was submerged, actually submerged while he`s talking on the phone.

PERPER: Right.

GRACE: So let`s go with that. If she fell into the tub, why weren`t there any bruises on her body? She had clothes on. Surely she wasn`t ready to get into the — into the tub fully clothed. So where were the bruises? There were no bruises on her body.

PERPER: Well, unless he placed in the water. That`s a possibility which could be excluded but it`s really just speculation. But there are a lot of details which have to be investigated and those are not yet clear.

When did she receive the medication? What was the time before she died when the husband saw her last time? What time did he found her? What were the levels in the blood? All those, we don`t know yet.

GRACE: OK. I want to go back to special guest Sara Lenz, reporter with “Deseret Morning News,” who broke this story.

Sara, what can you tell me about not only the discrepancies in his story that he gave of the day of her death, but also about his background, what you uncovered?

SARA LENZ, REPORTER DESERET MORNING NEWS, BROKE STORY ON MARTIN MACNEILL: Well, as far as his background, just that he wasn`t — that as far as his medical license, it`s being questioned. His law license is being questioned. They found — the daughters at least have found that he had multiple affairs, even when one of them was as young as 2, and then as far as what actually happened that day, different people have different stories and it doesn`t seem to collaborate with what he was saying as well.

GRACE: Sara, what can you tell me about this hoax he tried to pull with his — with the house? The house was in the wife`s name, and apparently shortly after her death, he gets the girlfriend to dress up, I think, as the dead wife, pretends she`s alive. He pretends to be the lawyer. It`s just some crazy scenario. What happened?

LENZ: Well, basically they put — she put a $1 million lien on the house so that he was afraid that perhaps his daughter might try to get the house because she was trying to get the daughter — to adopt the daughters as well, so somebody acted — a federal agent acted as an intended buyer. They came back, took the lien off the house and basically that`s when they were arrested for that, and then the identity theft.

GRACE: And how did that work, Jean Casarez? Who was dressing up and pretending to be who? This is right after the woman`s dead. Her body is practically still warm.

JEAN CASAREZ, LEGAL CORRESPONDENT, “IN SESSION”: Yes, a couple of things happened. First of all, as an attorney, he stepped in purporting that his wife was still alive but put the house in his name instead of her name — a transfer of title. And then number two, the girlfriend/nanny took on the identity of one of the young daughters that he had sent back to the Ukraine and then they went forward in false names in regard to numerous business dealings with the estate.

GRACE: OK. To Detective Lieutenant Steve Rogers joining us out of New York.

Detective, I know that this might not be scientific evidence, but that evidence is very strong, circumstantial evidence.

DET. LT. STEVE ROGERS, NUTLEY, NEW JERSEY, POLICE DEPARTMENT: Nancy, every piece of information that you articulated tonight is going to be used by the police to put him up against a corner. Don`t be surprised if there`s a deal and a confession.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. What — is your wife unconscious?

MACNEILL: She is unconscious. She`s under water.

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: OK. Did you — did you get her out of the water?

MACNEILL: I can`t. (INAUDIBLE). I let the water out. She`s (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED 911 DISPATCHER: She`s under the water?

MACNEILL: She`s out of the water! Now when will you give me the ambulance?

(END OF VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Loving God of wonder –

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The couple, wed in Alabama — was married for only 11 days. When Tina died –

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It never happens to you or your family.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: — while scuba diving off the Great Barrier Reef.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It happens to someone else.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Gabe Watson telling authorities his bride drowned.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Gabe Watson is now back in Alabama.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: It was a catastrophic accident.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: To face capital murder charges.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Take a look at this picture.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: In the honeymoon drowning death of his newlywed bride.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Shows Tina slumped on the seabed.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Her autopsy reveals no medical cause of death.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Husband Gabe had already surfaced.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No signs that anything was wrong.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Then something went terribly wrong.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Only two people knew what happened in the depths of the reef. And one of them is dead.

(END OF VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: We are taking your calls. I want to go out to Ellie Jostad, our chief editorial producer.

Ellie, we covered this when it first happened but now the United States, specifically the state of Alabama, has managed to wrangle this guy back to the U.S. Give me the facts about the bride`s death.

ELLIE JOSTAD, NANCY GRACE CHIEF EDITORIAL PRODUCER: OK. This is in Australia on the Great Barrier Reef. They are on a dream honeymoon. Gabe and Tina Watson are on a dive at the reef. They are underwater when witnesses say they saw Gabe Watson give his wife a bear hug.

Investigators believe at that point he turned off her air, let her sink to the bottom. Now, he claimed that his wife was panicking, he wasn`t able to bring her up to the surface, so he says he went up to the surface by himself to get help.

GRACE: OK. I`m looking at a photo right now with her lying on the ocean floor.

Give it to me in full, Liz.

Where she`s holding her arms out, asking for help. She`s not panicking.

With me right now, Michael Gast. He`s the founder and trainer of the National Academy of Police Diving.

You know, Michael, compared to you, I`m a novice diver. It`s always been one of my great dreams to dive the Great Barrier Reef but this much I do know. You do not go up to another diver face-to-face and give them a bear hug. No. Because you will tamper with all of their equipment.

MICHAEL GAST, FOUNDER/TRAINER, NATL. ACADEMY OF POLICE DIVING: That`s true. You would normally come from the rear or from the side. You wouldn`t come from the front and hug them.

GRACE: So Michael Gast, with him reaching around behind her, you know, a diver down at the foot of the — at the bottom of the ocean, you can`t reach behind you and adjust anything.

All you`ve got to — you`ve got your — you`ve got your vest, you`ve got your mouthpiece, that`s all that you can really control from up front. What could he have done behind her?

GAST: He could have just turned off the air valve, had it turn off so the air stops coming to her. Then when it starts flowing again and she`s unconscious, you can turn it back on.

GRACE: OK. Now, if someone reaches behind you and turns off your air, there`s really nothing you can do about it, is there?

GAST: Well, sometimes if your gear isn`t too restrictive and you`re knowledgeable in your diving skills, you can sometimes reach it but most sport divers aren`t able to do that.

GRACE: Or possibly take off the tank, if you can control your breathing, to take off the tank, turn it back on, but you would have to be an expert to be able to do that.

GAST: That`s correct. You`d have to have diving skills far above advanced open water.

GRACE: With me right now, Nicole Partin, investigative reporter joining us via Skype.

Nicole, I want to go back to the time of her marriage in Alabama. What happened?

NICOLE PARTIN, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Good evening, Nancy.

Yes, here we have a young, young lady who apparently has her whole life ahead of her, 26 years old. They marry. Eleven days later they go on this whirlwind beautiful honeymoon to Australia where they planned this amazing diving adventure and unfortunately that`s when things go terribly, terribly wrong.

GRACE: Now I misheard what you said. What did you say about 11 days?

PARTIN: Eleven days. Her death occurred 11 days after her marriage to Gabe Watson.

GRACE: OK. In this one photo, to me, says it all.

Liz, let me see the photo of him swimming to the surface and her lying there, her hands reaching out for help. That`s probably the last thing she could do. She`s absolutely not breathing at this point of this photo.

Where did we get the photo, Ellie Jostad?

JOSTAD: Nancy, this was taken by another diver and inadvertently the person who took the picture was not trying to take a picture. It wasn`t until — of her on the ocean floor. It wasn`t until they got back, looked through their photos that they realized in the background, you could see Tina Watson lying there either dead or dying on the ocean floor.

GRACE: OK. Ellie, while I`ve got you, in Australia, he did a few months behind bars.

JOSTAD: Right.

GRACE: Which was an outrage to the U.S. Now somebody is trying to do something about it, the attorney general in Alabama is, as a matter of fact.

JOSTAD: Right.

GRACE: He`s bringing — he has brought today, got this guy back in the U.S. to try him for murder, correct?

JOSTAD: That`s right, Nancy. What happened is the Australian government initially pursued murder charges against Gabe Watson. However, they did allow him to plead guilty to criminally negligent manslaughter, so he only served about 18 months there.

Alabama wasn`t satisfied with that. That`s why he was brought back to face those capital murder charges here.

GRACE: OK. Ellie, how did they get him back? That`s my question. Didn`t they have to waive seeking the death penalty?

JOSTAD: They did. They did. There was some negotiation after Gabe Watson was released from jail. He`s actually just being held on an immigration hold there in Australia.

The Aussies would not extradite him or deport him back here until they got assurance from the U.S. that he wouldn`t face the death penalty.

GRACE: Unleash the lawyers. John Burris, San Francisco. Raymond Giudice, Atlanta.

So I — everybody, you`re seeing exclusive video from NBC`s “Today” show. It`s Gabe Watson en route to Alabama from L.A. after he is now indicted with murder. He refuses to answer reporter questions about his bride`s death.

OK. I guess your first complaint is going to be no jurisdiction, either that or double jeopardy.

Go ahead, hit me, Burris.

JOHN BURRIS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I certainly have concerns about the double jeopardy question. I really do. Given that he was charged with murder there and that issue apparently was ultimately resolved with him deciding to take a plea. I don`t understand why he then gets to be charged with murder in the U.S. for the same offense that –

(CROSSTALK)

GRACE: OK. So to boil down what you just said, you`re going to start with double jeopardy.

What about you, Giudice?

RAY GIUDICE, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Yes, I don`t think the jurisdiction is a problem. It`s a death of American citizen. I think that can be prosecuted here. But I completely agree with John. I think the appellate courts are going to have to take a look at this.

I`m sure Alabama is going to prosecute first and litigate through the appellate court second. That`s the style there. But I think it`s a significant legal issue.

GRACE: To Wendy Walsh, psychologist, expert on MomLogic.com. Weigh in, Wendy.

WENDY WALSH, PSYCHOLOGIST, EXPERT ON MOMLOGIC.COM: Well, you know, I`d like to know what happened prior to this wedding and this honeymoon and how much premeditation and planning might have gone into this.

I mean did they meet all of a sudden and he sort of got her to go there? I`d really like to know about the relationship but, you know, Nancy, plenty of people have what I call an ANP. An apparently normal personality but underneath there`s some major evil like the doctor you talked about in the first half of the show.

GRACE: I`m going to Nicole Partin. What do we know about their courtship?

PARTIN: Nancy, it appears to be very, very normal. She comes home one day and tells her parents she`s met this fun guy at the university that she attended with him. They both graduate from the university. They plan an engagement. They marry. They plan this amazing honeymoon.

Everything appeared to be top notch. Exactly what you would expect for a young 26-year-old daughter. And she — the only thing that we can apparently find that was a little bit out of the ordinary, her father said that she called him and said, Gabe has asked me to up my life insurance policy and to leave him as the complete and sole beneficiary of that. That one thing was a red flag.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A rescue diver.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: His wife`s diving buddy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He let her go all the way down to the bottom.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: And she drowned on the honeymoon.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He could have just held on to her, inflated his buoyancy compensation vest and they could have come to the surface together.

(END OF VIDEO CLIP)

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: There were about 16 different versions of events that Gabe gave the police. Some of them were that Tina panicked or that they decided to swim against the current.

That she got into difficulties down there. That Gabe got into difficulties. That he couldn`t bring her to the surface. That he then took his time getting to the surface. It`s appears that he almost got confused in those final moments as to what he wanted his apparent story to be.

(END OF VIDEO CLIP)

GRACE: We are taking your calls. Out to Alison in Alabama, hi, Alison.

ALISON, CALLER FROM ALABAMA: Hi, Nancy.

GRACE: Hi, dear. What is your question?

ALISON: I would like to know, is there any way investigators would be able to check if her air valve was turned off and back on again? Is there a gauge on the equipment that could tell that?

GRACE: To Michael Gast, the founder and trainer of the National Academy of Police Diving. I don`t think so. Or is there?

GAST: Well, I think if the diving with dive computers I can probably extrapolate it from the information in the computer but that will take a little more work than normal.

GRACE: OK. I want to go back to you, Nicole Partin. Explain to me how Australia let this guy do a couple of months behind bars for this.

PARTIN: Well, Nancy, we are hearing that in 2008 Gabe pleaded guilty in Australia for criminally negligent manslaughter and in his statement he says something to the effect of, I didn`t do all that I could to rescue her. He does not admit to guilt as far as the murder is concerned but he admits negligence. That he could have done more to save her. Therefore, on this manslaughter charge, he serves only 18 months in Australia.

GRACE: Well, congratulations to the state of Alabama. Let`s see what happens. But even with a guilty verdict, her family will still walk out of the courtroom with a broken heart.

Let`s stop and remember Marine Sergeant James Graham III, 25, Coweta, Oklahoma, killed Iraq. An Eagle Scout, awarded the Purple Heart. Loved baseball, football, time with family. Dreamed of being a Tulsa police officer. Motto, never let your fears stand in the way of your dreams.

Leaves behind grieving parents Randy and Katrina, widow, Melissa, sons JR and Thomas.

James Graham III, American hero.

Thanks to our guests but especially to you for being with us. I`ll see you tomorrow night 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.

END

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By Sara Lenz
and Brian West, Deseret News
Copyright 2010 Deseret News
Published: Saturday, Dec. 4, 2010 11:10 p.m. MST

Editor’s note: For more than a year, Deseret News reporter Sara Lenz has investigated the life of Martin MacNeill. The information in this story comes from court documents, 911 calls, police reports, an autopsy report, a search warrant affidavit, psychology reports and dozens of interviews with investigators, attorneys, police officers, neighbors, victims and family members detailing why some believe MacNeill may have killed his wife, Michele.

A scripted life?

Utah County investigator Jeff Robinson compares Martin MacNeill’s life to the movie “Catch Me If You Can,” but says the movie “paled in comparison.”

MacNeill, the former Utah State Developmental Center clinical director and Pleasant Grove resident, is serving a prison sentence for fraud, forgery and identity theft. But investigators believe he spent a lifetime getting away with other crimes — including murder. And family sources expect a murder charge may be filed against him next month.

“MacNeill’s a thespian,” said investigator Doug Witney, who has spent nearly three years researching MacNeill and the suspicious death of his wife, Michele. “It appears his whole life was scripted and staged.”

Witney said MacNeill used his position as a doctor to have access to women and used his title as attorney to get around the law.

But three and a half years ago, many people who now believe MacNeill killed his wife, thought he was an upstanding citizen, a devoted husband and a loving father. One daughter went into medicine because of his example of helping others. Another daughter said she became an avid reader thanks to her father, who spent hours and hours discussing hundreds of books with her.

“The father that I knew was a fictional character. It was an act the whole time,” his oldest daughter, Rachel, said.

Neighbors also said the MacNeill family seemed “perfect” on the outside. But relatives of MacNeill’s wife say they had an inkling from the beginning that something wasn’t right.

Helen Somers was afraid for her daughter the first time she met Martin MacNeill.

Her soon to be son-in-law didn’t seem genuine. “I had a bad feeling about him,” she said.

Her bishop even called her and warned her not to allow her daughter Michele to go out with him, she said, but he couldn’t say why.

“I thought he was just a big actor,” recalled Michele’s younger sister, Linda Cluff. “He walked in like he owned the house. He just gave me the creeps.”

Despite her family’s misgivings, Michele fell for Martin hard. Partly because the family didn’t approve, the couple’s dating became secretive. She felt sorry for her new boyfriend. “She would defend him and say, ‘If you only knew about his childhood …,’ ” Cluff said of her sister.

Martin had told Michele he loved her so much and couldn’t live without her — even once putting a gun to his head and telling her he’d kill himself if she stopped dating him.

Shortly after learning Martin had eloped with Michele, Somers spotted a newspaper article about her new son-in-law with the headline: “ ’Brilliant’ forgery spree inspired by TV.”

Just before meeting Michele, Martin had forged $35,000 in checks and had gone on a three-day spending spree buying diamond rings, 60 pairs of socks, couches, chairs, a grandfather clock, watches, bicycles, a refrigerator, 20 pairs of shoes, TVs, tires, a wardrobe of clothes and more.

“I don’t know why I did it,” Martin later told a court psychiatrist. “I didn’t want the stuff. I didn’t need the stuff.”

Martin told police he got the idea after watching a “60 Minutes” episode about how check forgers worked. He told friends he could do it better and with fewer risks.

Somers wanted to learn more about her new son-in-law. She obtained records about his crimes and soon learned that Martin was discharged from the military for schizophrenia after hearing voices.

“I wouldn’t be surprised if he killed her some day,” Somers remembers telling two of her other daughters 31 years ago.

Now, three and a half years since Michele’s death at her Pleasant Grove home, Utah County investigators believe Martin murdered his wife, then covered it all up, according to an affidavit filed in 4th District Court.

An autopsy concluded that the mother of eight died suddenly due to natural causes, including myocarditis (an inflammation of the heart), cardiovascular disease and hypertension. However, the Deseret News has learned that investigators just recently convinced the Utah State Medical Examiner’s Office to change the manner of death to “undetermined” and “suspicious.”

But Michele’s mother, four of her five siblings, and now Martin’s own children — who grew up idolizing their father as a well-respected doctor and attorney in Utah County — have told the Deseret News they believe the cause of death should be homicide.

The family believes, and investigators from the Utah County Attorney’s Office wrote in an affidavit, that Martin had the know-how to kill his wife and make it look like an accident.

Some even suspect Martin may have killed others.

Early years

Michele was a tomboy growing up in Concord, Calif., but she later picked up the violin, participated in theater, became a cheerleader and even won homecoming queen in high school. She excelled at everything she did, was a straight-A student and was an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She later became a model and participated in four beauty pageants — culminating in being crowned Miss Concord in 1976.

Everyone seemed to like Michele, Cluff said, especially the boys. She always had more guy friends than girlfriends. Shortly after she returned home from being an exchange student in Switzerland, a Swiss boy came to California to visit her.

Right after this, Michele met Martin at an LDS young adult activity and they “went into a whirlwind of dating,” a family member said.

Michele’s relationship with her family became somewhat strained after she eloped in 1978, and even more after the family learned of Martin’s criminal behavior.

Four months after tying the knot, Martin served a six-month jail sentence for his forgery, theft and fraud charges. Their first child, Rachel, was born the next year.

The young family lived in Mexico in 1980 while Martin attended a semester of medical school, then moved to California, New York and later to Utah, where Martin obtained his medical license in 1987. By this time, the couple had added three other children to their family.

Martin worked part time at the BYU Health Center while earning a law degree. He graduated from BYU’s law school in 1990 and worked as a physician at the Health Center for some time before taking a position as director of Medical Law Comp in Washington and then returning to Utah.

A few years later, the couple adopted five more children — four from the Ukraine. One of those adoptions was later terminated, making a family of eight children: Rachel, Vanessa, Alexis, Damian, Giselle, Sabrina, Elle and Ada.

Friends and family describe Michele as one of the most kind, generous, loving people they had ever met. She devoted her life to her family, said daughter Alexis, who called her mom her best friend.

“She made everything and everyone not just look — but feel — beautiful,” said her oldest daughter, Rachel. “She was an angel walking among us.”

“She told us we were her princesses,” Elle said during her mother’s funeral.

Neighbor LoRene Hernandez considered Michele her mentor and said Michele was always serving those around her.

“It’s still hard for me to drive by her house,” Hernandez said. “There is just such a void. Not a day goes by that I don’t think about her and her kids.”

Not so perfect

In 2000, Martin was appointed by then-Gov. Mike Leavitt as clinical director of the American Fork Training School.

Alexis remembers wanting to go to his clinic for her birthdays and following her dad around all day. Growing up, she wanted to be a doctor and make people feel better. She finished medical school earlier this year.

Alexis thought just a few years ago that her family was pretty normal and that her dad loved her mom and her family.

“I thought he was rough around the edges but sweet,” Alexis said.

Hernandez said she, too, thought Martin was a good guy. She thought the MacNeills had “the perfect family.” What most people didn’t know was the couple was struggling the last few years before Michele’s death.

Martin threatened to kill Michele and himself with a butcher knife after she caught him looking at pornography in August of 2000. After hearing screaming and seeing what was going on, a friend at the house called police. The MacNeills’ son was able to get the knife away from his father shortly before police arrived, and Martin spent the night at Wasatch Mental Health.

A few years later, Alexis said her father became verbally and mentally abusive to her mother and threatened to leave the family. She remembers him saying that he no longer loved Michele and didn’t want the adopted daughters anymore. Michele expressed concerns that her husband was having an affair.

The family moved from their Orem home to a smaller one in Pleasant Grove about a year before Michele’s death, and Michele told two of her daughters she was afraid it was in preparation for a divorce.

The suspicions of an affair heightened about six weeks before Michele’s death, and she began confronting her husband more and more.

One woman Michele suspected was Gypsy Willis, whose number had shown up repeatedly on Martin’s phone bill. Just days before her mother’s death, Alexis remembers her parents arguing over the allegations of an affair and her mother telling her father that she was not going to let the issue die.

After Michele’s death, several women came forward with information about affairs and even accusations of rape against Martin.

Michele’s last days

Michele underwent plastic surgery just eight days before her April 11, 2007, death. Alexis said her mother had talked to her about wanting to lose weight before getting the face-lift, but said her father insisted that she have the operation immediately and even set up the appointment for her with a doctor in Draper.

The surgeon prescribed Lortab syrup, Ambien, Oxycodone and Valium. The doctor told investigators he had “never prescribed the combination of drugs listed above to a patient and would not have in this case had it not been for the recommendation of Martin MacNeill, and then only on the condition that Mr. MacNeill monitor the administration of the substances as a physician.”

The first night after the surgery, Alexis remembers her father forcing her to leave her mother’s side to go to bed. The next morning, she found her mother “listless and unresponsive.” When she confronted her dad, he said he may have overmedicated her mother but wouldn’t elaborate. She didn’t leave her mother’s side after this.

Alexis said her mother had not asked for any medication and didn’t need any for the pain. Her mother had strong reactions to any medication and had always taken less than was prescribed, and her father was aware of that.

Michele was worried about her husband’s intentions. Her eyes were still covered and swollen from the surgery, and Michele feared her husband was giving her too much medication — so much it made her throw up and was making her feel drowsy, she told Alexis. Michele asked Alexis to let her hold each pill in her hand in order to know what each pill was that her husband was giving her.

Alexis remembers her mom saying: “If anything happens to me, make sure it was not your dad.”

Five days later, on the night of April 10, Alexis returned to Las Vegas, where she was attending her first year of medical school.

Within 18 hours, Michele was dead.

Yet Alexis had left her mother in “terrific spirits.” Michele even told Alexis the morning of her death that she was surprised how kindly her husband was treating her. Just an hour later, though, Alexis received a disturbing voice mail from her father.

Your mother won’t stay in bed, he told her. This confused Alexis because her mother had been up doing laundry again and was back to her normal routine. After trying to call her mother several times that morning, Alexis said her dad picked up Michele’s phone and told her he had just called 911 and was attempting CPR and then he hung up.

She dropped her backpack, ran to her car and started driving to the airport, screaming as she drove: “He’s killed her! He’s killed her! He’s killed her!”

“I just had this overwhelming feeling that he had done it,” she said. “I was very, very close to my dad. My whole world turned upside down. I am a pretty rational person, but that was the feeling. It was very strange, unsettling and horrifying to come to that realization.”

911 call

The day of Michele’s death, Martin made numerous inconsistent statements regarding the facts surrounding his wife’s death. He also withheld information from hospital personnel, the police and the medical examiner, wrote Doug Witney an investigator with the Utah County Attorney’s Office, in an affidavit.

In a recording of the 911 call, Martin can be heard yelling to the dispatcher that his wife is unconscious and underwater in the bathtub.

Yet Martin apparently told others his wife was found hanging on the outside of the tub. According to a report from one of the emergency room doctors who attended to Michele, lividity formed on the back of her legs and buttocks, suggesting Michele died on her back. Lividity, or settling of the blood in the lower portion of the body, usually forms within an hour of death.

When asked by the dispatcher if he could get her out of the tub, Martin says he can’t, then says he let the water out, then angrily says she’s out of the water. He can be heard saying something like, “CPR in progress,” then hangs up.

After the dispatcher calls Martin back, he twice yells that he’s performing CPR, explains that he’s a physician and his wife had surgery a week earlier, then hangs up again.

It’s unclear how or if he was able to perform CPR while his wife was still in the bathtub. “It would be virtually impossible to give chest compressions to someone in that position,” Witney wrote in a search warrant affidavit.

Years later, the Pleasant Grove dispatcher says she can still hear Martin’s “aggressive, angry and condescending” voice as she tried to offer assistance. The calls were so unusual that the recordings were saved in order to provide training for other dispatchers.

Earlier that morning, investigators say Martin had gone to a safety fair for the Utah State Developmental Center (formerly known as the American Fork Training Center), where he still worked as the facility’s clinical director. While at the fair, he apparently acted so “belligerent and nervous” that an employee filed a complaint against him. The employee also said Martin was “very insistent” that she take a photograph of him, “so that people would know that he was present.”

How long he was at the safety fair is unknown.

Martin picked up his 6-year-old daughter, Ada, from school at some point that morning. When they arrived home, the young girl found her mother fully-clothed in the tub, which she later told an interviewer at the Children’s Justice Center was full of reddish-brown water. Her mother’s head was above the water level and neighbors also said they saw her mother sitting up in the tub.

Martin, however, told others that he had gone into the house first and had left Ada in the car.

In some reports, he told people his wife must have fallen while preparing a bath, and said he found his wife draped over the tub with her head submerged in the water. Alexis said her father told her he found her mother submerged in the tub with only her feet above water.

Martin instructed Ada to go find a neighbor to help him pull her mother out of the tub. But when she returned with neighbor Angie Aguilar, Martin told them he needed a man to help him because he wasn’t strong enough and demanded that the neighbor go find one. Aguilar recalled seeing no water in the tub and said Michele was only wearing an upper undergarment.

After neighbor Doug Daniels finally arrived, he and Martin pulled Michele out of the tub and started CPR. Daniels told investigators that he did not see the chest rise while they performed CPR.

“Why Martin, who was a licensed physician, did not make efforts to open the trachea by manipulation of the head and upper torso, by use of the Heimlich Maneuver, or other medical procedures, is unknown,” Witney wrote.

After emergency responders showed up, Martin told them his wife had been taking a lot of medication and that he’d found her hunched over the tub, with her head inside, the affidavit states.

A doctor at American Fork Hospital said Martin told him his wife must have passed out and fallen into the tub.

Pleasant Grove emergency responders said that while they performed CPR on Michele, she threw up a lot of water. Witney wrote that if Martin had performed CPR correctly, the water should have been regurgitated within the first few breaths of CPR.

Regurgitating water during CPR can be an after-effect of swallowing water during submersion and can also be an after-effect of “dry drowning,” Witney wrote in his affidavit. Dry drowning is where an airway spasm shuts off the lungs after first exposure to water to prevent additional water from going into the lungs. The body, however, is no longer able to extract oxygen from the air.

Utah State Medical Examiner Dr. Todd Grey said there are no scientific tests that can be done to prove drowning. While his office received no evidence from her autopsy suggesting Michele did drown, that’s not to say that it is impossible, he said.

After Michele’s body was taken by the medical team, Daniels — who had helped with CPR — tried to clean up the bathroom but could not find any towels. He went into the laundry room and found a pile of towels that were wet and bloody. Investigators are unsure who used the towels and when, but Daniels said no cleaning was done after he arrived.

“This would indicate that Martin MacNeill would have to have stopped any lifesaving measure long enough to wipe up blood and water on the floor,” Witney wrote in an affidavit. “The only other alternative to this inconsistency is that there was another person in the home during this time, assisting MacNeill.”

Alexis suspects her father had help from his girlfriend that day, though no one knows for sure.

In pictures taken by police, a pile of Michele’s clothes that appear to be wet are next to the tub. Alexis and Rachel found those clothes hours after the death in the garage and confirmed they were soaking wet with blood on them.

Also complicating the case is the amount of time it took paramedics and police to arrive at the house. Paramedics were dispatched to the wrong address because they could not clearly hear Martin on the phone and 30 minutes elapsed before they arrived on scene.

In two police reports written on April 11 and 12, 2007, Pleasant Grove investigators appear to conclude the death was accidental.

“The victim had apparently slipped and fell after filling the tub with water,” one report states. “He (Martin) said he found her hunched over the tub as if she had passed out while preparing the tub.”

Another officer reported, “It appeared the female was drawing a bath when she possibly passed out or fell.”

Autopsy questioned

Michele’s initial autopsy indicated she died a sudden, natural death partly due to myocarditis (an inflammation of the heart), which can be caused by a hypersensitivity to drugs, according to Grey. He said certain drugs can cause the body to attack itself and can kill someone over time or quickly. It is unlikely, however, that someone could know which drugs another person could be hypersensitive to as this attack on the body occurs when a person is exposed to the drug for the first time, he said. Grey said there were four different drugs in her system at the time of her death.

Michele had acute and sub-acute inflammation of the heart, but Grey said doctors can’t be sure what caused it.

However, in October 2010— after consultations with Utah County investigators and other forensic and toxicologist teams that were hired to look at Michele’s death report and toxicology levels — Grey changed Michele’s cause of death to include drug toxicity, and under manner of death, it says that Michele could not have administered medication to herself.

Witney believes the medical examiner who performed Michele’s autopsy was not given complete information and may have come to a different conclusion if she had been given more facts surrounding the case. The fact that Michele threw up water was only discovered through investigation a year later. To complicate matters, however, that medical examiner — Dr. Maureen Frikke — has since died.

Grey maintains that Frikke’s investigation was thorough. Several months ago, he said the MacNeill case would require “a specific set of investigation findings to overcome the lack of any physical findings on the body” in order to indicate a possible homicide. While he could not say what specifically caused him to amend the autopsy results, he offered a hypothetical.

“If in a particular case investigators’ information is strongly suggestive of a non-natural event (such as a homicide) and the physical findings on the body show, pathologically, something that could explain death, but there are added features that make you say, ‘Wow, I’m not sure, but it’s possible these non-natural factors may have played a role, but I’m not certain.’ That would be a (comparable) situation.”

Grey said his office receives three to four requests a year to reconsider the cause of death because someone believes it was a homicide. Of those requests, he said less than 5 percent are actually reopened.

“Most homicides are pretty clear,” he said.

‘Contrived’ setup?

For months before Michele’s death, Martin had been telling neighbors and members of his LDS ward that he was dying of a rare form of foot cancer, had multiple sclerosis and even used a cane during Michele’s funeral. Witney said he believes the ailment “appears to have been contrived” and wrote that he suspects he may have been setting up a scene in which he would have needed help pulling his wife out of the tub.

Family members said he had no such ailments. Rachel saw her father bring sheet rock down the basement stairs just days before her mother’s death and he had allegedly helped haul hay just weeks earlier in Wyoming.

Randy Spencer, Martin’s attorney, said his client does have a neurological condition that causes parts of his body to go numb if he stays in a certain position too long, and said that he did have a large swollen toe from an earlier injury.

Police and paramedics who responded to the MacNeill home that morning described him as “extremely agitated” at them and then at Michele. Medical personnel at American Fork Hospital, where resuscitation efforts continued for 45 minutes, described Martin’s behavior there as “bizarre” and inconsistent with a bereaving husband. One doctor said Martin offered him $10,000 to continue lifesaving techniques beyond the 45-minute mark.

Drugs and suspicions

Frikke, the medical examiner who analyzed Michele’s blood, which was drawn right after her death, noted that the drugs prescribed to her after her surgery had been administered to her less than an hour before her death. Such a finding greatly concerned Alexis, who said her mother had stopped taking those medications, and she worried her father may have crushed them up and put them in her food.

Right after Michele died, Martin also instructed his son, Damian, and Damian’s girlfriend to dispose of all the pills their mother had been taking “because he couldn’t bear to have them as a reminder of her death,” the affidavit states.

Co-workers told investigators that Martin would have known the importance of saving a patient’s drugs to help in resuscitation efforts or death investigations.

When Alexis confronted her dad about the missing pills, he told her he did not know where they were and said police must have taken them.

Pleasant Grove police, however, did not look for or confiscate any medications, even though Martin had told them that his wife had been taking a lot of medications since her surgery.

“Unfortunately at the time when officers arrived, there was no evidence suggesting foul play,” said Pleasant Grove Police Capt. Mike Smith.

Damian told the Deseret News his father wanted him to get rid of the pills that day because he wanted to keep his mother’s face-lift a private matter and said his father was also afraid he would try to overdose on the drugs himself.

The days after

Michele’s funeral was held three days after her death. Martin spoke at the funeral, quoting the story of Job from the Bible and then told stories of his own family, whom he described as “the definition of dysfunctional.” He spoke about trials in life but only mentioned Michele in passing and never spoke about her life or characteristics.

“What have I done to cause this?” he said during the funeral.

Michele’s older brothers, Mick and Steve Somers, had driven from California, where they lived, to Utah for the funeral, but Martin had one of his children call them and tell them not to come.

The two didn’t want to upset the girls, so they held their own ceremony the next day. But both said they felt immediately when they heard about Michele’s passing that Martin probably had something to do with her death.

“We knew something was wrong,” Mick Somers said.

Steve Somers said they didn’t think beforehand that Martin would go to such an extent, but the circumstances in which she died and how Martin reacted afterward confirmed it in their minds. “He thought he could get away with anything, and he did for years,” he said.

The night of Michele’s funeral, neighbor Hernandez said she went over to the MacNeills’ house. Martin wasn’t crying and didn’t seem sad. She found it especially odd that he gave her a tour of the house and told her about the improvements he was planning. That next morning, he brought her some flowers from the funeral and she recalled that “he seemed almost happy.”

Three days after the funeral, Martin told his children he needed a nanny to help with the younger kids — something the older daughters told him was unnecessary. Martin asked Rachel to go with him to the LDS Mount Timpanogos Temple to pray about a nanny.

Just outside the temple, a woman whom her dad pretended not to know walked out of the temple and up to Rachel and Martin and began talking to them. Rachel said her dad acted very strange.

“This was the first time I realized something was wrong,” she said. “The whole thing had been scripted.”

Not only did her father know this woman, he had been dating her for 16 months, she would later learn.

During a phone conversation when he later announced the new nanny’s name, Gypsy Willis, Alexis told him she knew that name because her mom had believed he was having an affair with her. Because of that conversation, Martin held a family meeting and told her adult siblings that Alexis was no longer a part of the family and she was not allowed to talk to her four younger siblings.

Within a couple of weeks, Willis moved in with the family.

The daughters later learned Willis was not the only woman their father was involved with sexually before their mother’s death.

Surrounded by suicides

One of these women — who said Martin was planning on moving away with her — told investigators she believes Martin is a “serial killer.”

She claimed Martin confessed he’d killed people before and even tried to kill his mother when he was young, “but his sister had called 911 and the medical personnel were able to revive her,” an affidavit states.

The woman claimed he also told her he’d killed his brother, Roy MacNeill, who “had repeatedly attempted suicide for attention, and had become an ‘embarrassment.’ He claimed he found his brother in the tub and that both of his wrists were bleeding in an apparent suicide attempt. Martin told (the woman) that he pushed the head of his brother under the water and drowned him,” the affidavit states.

The Utah County Attorney’s Office confirmed Roy MacNeill was found dead in the family home when the family lived in New Jersey.

However, at his wife’s funeral, Martin said his mother found Roy deceased with a needle still in his arm. “Ten nickel bags were his ticket out,” Martin said during the funeral.

He also told those at the church service that his oldest brother “drank himself senseless,” had a stroke at age 50 and died 20 years later in a nursing home. Another brother died in 2006, but his body was ravaged from years of booze and heroin, he said. Another brother took his own life just two months before Michele died. A sister died in her early 20s after strangling herself.

His only living sibling, a sister, declined requests to be interviewed.

“MacNeill has a whole history of people dying around him,” Witney said.

The woman who said they planned to run away together also claimed Martin once even offered to kill her husband “to relieve her of an abusive relationship.”

She admitted both loving and fearing Martin, and told investigators she had sent the information about Martin to Pleasant Grove police after learning of his wife’s death, but police later told prosecutors “that communication was never forwarded through the proper channels.”

The woman told investigators Martin also considered killing another family “embarrassment,” when shortly after Michele’s death one of his daughters approached him about her drug addiction problems, and Martin’s solution reportedly was to suggest they both commit suicide.

Martin’s only son, Damian, committed suicide in January 2010 by overdosing on prescription drugs.

At first, the family wondered if Martin had been involved with the death. Alexis believes it was probably her younger brother’s own doing, but still thinks her father’s actions influenced the act. “No matter what, my dad was involved, even if it was a suicide,” she said.

During the last six or seven months before his death, Alexis said her brother had turned to her father for unknown reasons. Damian was the only sibling who said he did not believe his dad killed his mother.

In an e-mail to the Deseret News two months before his death, he wrote: “Some people are quick to infer that because of my father’s actions following my mother’s death, he had to also be involved somehow in the death itself. This seems ludicrous to me.”

Spencer, Martin’s attorney, said his client was devastated over the death of his son.

Rachel remembers her father threatening to commit suicide many times. She said she now realizes that around the time of each of those threats, her father was doing things he could have gotten in trouble for — whether by his wife or by the police.

One such incident occurred in 1994, about the same time he was accused of having sexual relations with one of his patients at the BYU Health Center. Rachel said her father threatened suicide then and again after Michele caught him looking at pornography in 2005.

Poisonous plots

The relationship between Martin and Willis had been “heating up” prior to Michele’s death. Her two roommates told investigators Willis even talked to them about poisoning Martin’s wife or cutting the brake lines of her car. Willis also told them she had been stalking Michele, and once broke into the MacNeill home in Pleasant Grove and stole a photo of her.

Michelle Savage also recalled that the first time she met Martin was when he came over to the North Salt Lake apartment she shared with Willis and gave her $200 to get lost for a few hours so Willis and Martin could have the place alone.

The roommates also said Willis told her she and Martin would secretly have relations — including a time when Martin and Michele were at an event and Willis and her roommates were also there. Willis pointed out Martin to the younger roommate and told her Martin would tell his wife he was going to the bathroom, then had sex with Willis in a closet while his wife remained at the table.

Savage described Willis as turning “dark and violent” after she started taking methamphetamines to lose weight for Martin. When Martin said they might have to break off their relationship for a time because his wife was suspicious, that is when Willis started contemplating ways to get rid of Michele, Savage said.

The roommate said she remembers once watching a TV show with Willis about a doctor who poisoned his wife with a drug. The next day, she said Willis “demanded that (she) give her the name of the drug, claiming she needed to get rid of the woman keeping her from her man,” the affidavit states.

Prison for two

Right after Michele died, prosecutors say Martin and Willis began altering Willis’ identity, obtaining false military IDs, a Utah state ID card, and opening numerous bank accounts under the false name and identity.

They used the identity of his 16-year-old adopted daughter, Giselle — a daughter investigators say he had “flown to the Ukraine and left there to fend for herself” in the summer following his wife’s death.

Willis took on the identity of Jillian Giselle MacNeill, and the two even used Michele’s funeral date as their supposed marriage date — showing a “callousness and a coldness,” said Karen Fojkt, a U.S. attorney who worked on Martin’s identity theft case.

Martin was indicted in federal court in January 2009 on nine counts of aiding and abetting in aggravated identity theft, misuse of a Social Security number, and making false statements. He pleaded guilty to two counts of aiding and abetting in aggravated identity theft.

In August of 2009, Martin was sentenced to four years in prison.

Willis was also indicted on 11 different counts, including misuse of a Social Security card. She pleaded guilty to one count of aggravated identity theft and was sentenced to 21 months in prison. But a month before she was to begin serving her time, she was arrested after prosecutors said she planned to flee to Mexico. She was ordered to start serving her sentence immediately.

In September of 2009, Martin also pleaded guilty to three felonies of false and inconsistent statements, insurance fraud and forgery in Provo’s 4th District Court, and Judge Samuel McVey ordered him to serve three years in jail. He will serve his state sentence concurrently with his federal prison sentence, after which he will be on probation for six years.

In December 2009, Willis was charged in Provo’s 4th District Court with one count of identity fraud, two counts of false and inconsistent material statements and one count of wrongful lien. That case is still pending.

When Martin’s wife passed away, the house had been in her name. Martin had not wanted to go through probate or pay taxes, so instead acted as his deceased wife’s attorney, pretended she was still alive and had the property transferred to his name.

The same day the transaction went through, Willis filed a $1 million lien on the house, which is illegal because there was no reason to file the lien. Investigators believe it was likely done to discourage Martin’s children from claiming rights to the house because one of his daughters was trying to obtain custody of her three adopted younger sisters at the time.

When the federal government realized what was going on, it had an agent act as an intended buyer of the house. A few days after Willis went to remove the lien, she and Martin were arrested.

“(Willis) was an integral part of this. She was not an innocent bystander,” said Witney.

James Wissler, federal agent for the U.S. postal inspection service, spent several months collecting documents in conjunction with numerous other agencies including the Social Security office, military office, Veteran’s Administration and Department of Professional Licensing for the white collar case against Willis and Martin.

He called Martin’s past “disturbing.”

“It was astounding that someone could have that amount of incidents in the past and avoid additional prosecution,” Wissler said. “I can tell you he was very articulate, intelligent, well-educated and he premeditated these criminal acts.”

Wissler well remembers the surprised looks on family members’ faces when he testified in court about Martin’s past.

“They just looked overwhelmed,” he said. “They were amazed with some of the new things that were coming to light.”

One of the most interesting things to Wissler was discovering that after his wife died, Martin changed his will to give just $1 to each of his children. Everything else was to go to Willis under her false identity. To Wissler’s knowledge, the will remains the same.

Both Martin and Willis — who are in federal prisons in Texas — have declined to speak with the Deseret News. Willis’ current release date is March 12, 2011, and Martin’s is July 8, 2012.

Jeff Robinson, chief investigator of the Utah County Attorney’s Office, and Witney both went to Texas in October to interview the two. Willis spoke to the investigators, but Martin refused to talk to them.

Thoughts of their father being released so soon, however, scares both Rachel and Alexis.

“Not only will our family be threatened, but all the people he meets in the future will be in danger,” Rachel said. “There are future victims at risk.”

Alexis said her father has threatened to destroy her personally.

“He’s lived his whole life getting away with things,” she said. “I don’t want him to get away with murder.”

Push for answers

Cluff always suspected foul play in her sister Michele’s death. But when she told police about her suspicions, she said the officers were rude and mocked her and her sisters when they asked for the case to be reopened. “It was like we were in the Twilight Zone,” she said.

A Pleasant Grove police report was filed in June 2007, mentioning her suspicions that Martin was involved and possibly paid off the doctor for the autopsy results. “The case will be closed due to the autopsy results,” the report states.

Yet Smith, the department’s spokesman, now says the case was never officially closed.

The Utah County Attorney’s Office began investigating Michele’s death in January 2008, after Cluff wrote several letters and e-mails to them and to former Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr.

Witney said he had no idea what he was getting into when he first started investigating the case.

“This was a case that because nothing was known about the individual, nothing was done,” he said, adding that Martin’s position as a doctor and attorney caused few people to question him.

Witney and Robinson would never have looked into the death had it not been for the concerns and suspicions of family members and their persistence to reopen the case. A letter from Michele’s mother and documents kept by her drew Witney’s attention into the case.

“There is probable cause to believe that Martin MacNeill had the opportunity, the motive, the psychological disposition, and based on his lifestyle … the capability of killing his wife, Michele MacNeill, which I believe he did on the morning of April 11, 2007,” Witney wrote in a search warrant affidavit used to confiscate Martin’s computers, cell phones and camcorder.

Their investigation has unraveled what they call “years of lies and deception” by Martin.

History of lies

Investigators traced Martin’s first lie back to when he got into the military at age 17.

He was put on disability leave two years later when a medical officer deemed him a “latent schizophrenic” with “other mental and psychological infirmities,” according to documents Utah County investigators obtained in their research.

Rachel and Alexis never saw signs of schizophrenia in their father and they do not believe he ever had such tendencies.

Witney and even U.S. District Jugde Dee Benson questioned whether or not Martin’s schizophrenia was real.

But Martin had been receiving Veteran’s Administration and Social Security benefits for his alleged disability — even after he became a doctor and a lawyer with a six-figure income.

He had been receiving VA benefits up until January 2010, Alexis said.

In 1977, after he was caught forging checks, Martin unsuccessfully tried to plead not guilty by reason of insanity and even told the psychiatrist he heard voices: “The patient before has gotten into trouble with the authorities due to his desire to kill people at the command of voices,” a psychiatric report states.

But the examiner deemed him mentally fit to stand trial.

Within a couple of years after being charged with his first few felonies, Martin falsified transcripts with inflated grades and lied on applications to get into two different medical schools — and later to BYU Law School, according to documents obtained by the Utah County Attorney’s Office.

Investigators found records indicating that Martin graduated from Saint Martin’s University in Washington in psychology and sociology, but 65 of the credits he attained were supposedly from the Army’s extension program and their validity has been questioned, Robinson said.

Cluff said she remembers finding a Saint Martin’s seal and St. Martin’s stationery in the back of her mom’s car. Cluff and her mom made an impression of the seal because they were not sure what it was or if it would prove to be important later on.

It did, and helped investigators figure out that Martin falsified his Saint Martin’s transcripts to get him into medical school in Guadalajara, Mexico, while he was still on probation from his felony charges in 1978.

After one semester in Mexico and while still on probation, Robinson said, Martin transferred to Western University of Health Sciences in California with his previous falsified transcripts, which also stated that he had been at the Guadalajara medical school for a full year.

The same year he transferred, he had an interview with the Army to check up on his disability leave, during which he allegedly told the examiner that he had not been working or attending school. Robinson said that made him eligible for 50 percent disability pay from the Veterans Administration and he later received 100 percent pay.

Martin also managed to receive 100 percent pay from Social Security.

Three years later, Martin received a license to practice as an osteopathic physician and surgeon in Utah.

He started working part time for the BYU Health Center, but failed to disclose that he had a diagnosed psychological disorder and had been convicted of felonies.

His work at BYU was punctuated by accusations of rape, complaints of unprofessional conduct and misdiagnosis. He was terminated in 1999 for undisclosed reasons.

“It is amazing story about how he got from one place to another through lies,” Robinson said. “Whenever you can become a doctor and an attorney based on lies, that is an amazing thing.”

“This is the first time that anybody has put a timeline on this guy and has seen everything that has been going on with him for 30 years,” said prosecutor Fojkt.

Daughter abandoned?

Alexis said her dad told her in July 2007 to accompany one of her adopted siblings, 16-year-old Giselle, back to Ukraine for the summer to visit her biological sister, and if she didn’t, she couldn’t see her younger siblings again.

She was also instructed by her father to keep Giselle’s U.S. passport because “Giselle may lose it,” he told her.

Family members and even Fojkt with the U.S. Attorney’s Office now believe the trip was to be permanent and a ploy to steal Giselle’s identity.

“He knew he was plotting and planning (to steal her identity),” Fojkt said.

Despite Martin’s reticence, family members were finally able to reach Giselle through a translator they had worked with during the initial adoption.

Giselle had been trying to reach her father for many months and did not have any money for food or school for several months, Alexis said.

Earlier this year, Giselle was released from a structured foster home after dealing with everything that happened to her while she was there, Cluff said.

Shortly after taking Giselle to Ukraine, Alexis said her father sent a text message to all the older siblings and told them he was giving away their youngest sisters, who had also been a part of the family for five years, to old family friends in California — a family Alexis said she had only seen once in the past 16 years.

Alexis now has custody of the three youngest children (ages 9, 16 and 17), and she and Rachel had been taking care of the kids until this summer when Alexis was married and Rachel moved to California. Alexis, who is in her first year of residency, said she has never received any money from her dad to help with the three girls.

Alexis changed her last name to her mother’s maiden name, because she said she doesn’t want to be known as another “Dr. MacNeill.”

Martin’s daughter also complained that her father didn’t put a gravestone marker on their mother’s grave for more than a year after she died. He wouldn’t let anyone else in the family put one up either. After complaining to his lawyer about it and to the court as she was trying to get custody of her three younger siblings, Alexis said Cluff found him one day creating his own gravestone out of concrete he mixed.

The stone is about 6 feet tall and Alexis said it looks like a surfboard. She said she is not sure why her dad did it, but she assumes it was to save money. Many people complained to Highland Cemetery about what Alexis called an “eyesore” and Martin finally put a plaque on the outside of it several months later. Alexis and Cluff wish they could just replace it with a normal gravestone.

Sexual predator?

Since her mother’s death, Rachel has received dozens of phone calls from people who say her father hurt them. Many women have called to say Martin either propositioned them, had sexual relations with them or raped them.

Some have cried on the phone to her for hours.

“It’s horrifying to hear their stories and how their life has been affected by my dad,” Rachel said. “He really knew who he could take advantage of. I thought I had an idea of who my father was, but I had no idea. The father that I knew was a fictional character. It was an act the whole time.”

One of the women from their LDS ward told Rachel she was propositioned by Martin over the Internet. Another man said he witnessed Martin raping someone years ago when Rachel was still a toddler.

Rachel wishes these people would had come forward earlier, because she believes her mother would have left him. “To think if my mom would’ve known, her life would’ve been saved.”

Karen Wright, now 56, was the first woman to call Rachel. She claims Martin took advantage of her 14 years ago when she was his patient at the BYU Health Center.

Wright had eight children and told Martin she was recently divorced and an “emotional basket case.” She remembers Martin telling her he was not only a doctor but a lawyer and that he drove a Jaguar. He said he didn’t have a good sexual relationship with his wife and that she was beautiful.

“He manipulated me,” Wright told the Deseret News, “but he managed to do it in a seductive way. I didn’t tell anyone because I thought it was my fault. I think he knew I wouldn’t report it. That’s why he made me think I was so attractive.”

Wright said Martin also had sexual relations with her a second time in his office shortly thereafter. She said these assaults had a profound effect on her life. She was wracked with guilt until she found Rachel’s contact information on the Internet and learned more about Martin and his history with other women.

But the alleged abuse wasn’t just outside the family. Martin also has a case pending in court for sexual abuse of Alexis.

“Alexis stated there had been two incidents where she had been fondled by her father” within three months of her mother’s passing, a police report states.

Martin admitted in a recorded phone call with Alexis that he inappropriately touched her while she was sleeping because he thought Alexis was his wife.

“Mr. MacNeill was reported to have told his daughters that even though his wife is dead, he is still a sexual person and has desires that need to be met,” according to Pleasant Grove police records.

Alexis wants to protect her family and others from her dad. “I don’t want him to hurt anyone else.”

Questioning everything

Each new discovery about Martin causes family members to question memories and statements they had never wondered about just three years ago. For example, Alexis said her father worked with Dr. Jack Kevorkian for a little while either during or right after he was in medical school.

Her father used to joke that Kevorkian did not start killing people until after he worked with him.

She also remembers her dad pulling out his medicine book when she went with him and her mother to the pre-surgery appointment in Layton. She said she had never seen him use that book before, but he looked through it then when he was suggesting to the doctor what to prescribe her mother.

“He knows medical things that people don’t know,” Alexis said. “He also had access to medication.”

She also remembers that for several months before her mom passed away, her dad kept all his work on the computer “very secretive.” She said he erased all of his e-mails and his searches.

Neighbor Hernandez said she and Michele and two other women from their LDS ward called themselves the Ya-Ya Sisters after seeing the movie “The Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood” together. They would have lunch every so often, but the last two times before her death, Michele was unable to make it. She remembers in March 2007, Michele was sobbing on the phone that Martin had kept her too busy and she couldn’t come to a planned birthday lunch.

“But I really need my Ya-Ya Sisters,” Hernandez remembers her saying through tears.

Hernandez has only thought about this since everything has come out about Martin. She thought she knew him pretty well and remembered the time he organized people to help her move and paint her basement.

But she also recalls being afraid to call the MacNeill house phone because Martin might pick up and he was “very intimidating.”

Many family members and friends immediately felt that something wasn’t right when Michele died and some suspected Martin.

“It’s in his nature to be finished with people,” Cluff said of her brother-in-law. “He was on to bigger and better things and Michele was in his way and starting to figure him out.”

She believes Martin thought a divorce would be too messy and pricey. Over the years, the family tried to forgive and forget and get along with Martin, but he would often twist situations to make his wife believe her relatives were against her. “Everybody was afraid of Martin.”

And toward the end of Michele’s life, her voice betrayed that she wasn’t happy, Cluff said.

But Michele never spoke negatively about Martin and wouldn’t let anyone else, either.

It’s hard for Helen Somers though, when the loss of her daughter is often in her mind.

She still remembers her little Michele secretly collecting soda cans for months to raise money to buy her a brown teapot for hot chocolate, which still sits in her kitchen.

Michele was always service-oriented, always trying to help people, she said. Martin must have played off of her goodness.

“I sure do miss her,” Somers said. “I hope Martin is in jail forever.”

e-mail: slenz@desnews.com; bwest@desnews.com

Martin MacNeill-Blanding Clinic-Utah 1988

Posted in By Linda, The MacNeill Story on December 3rd, 2010 by admin – Be the first to comment

Martin MacNeill lived with my older sister and her family in Blanding, Utah in 1988 for a short time and worked at the Blanding clinic and in the emergency room at the hospital.  Are there any victims of Martin MacNeill in Blanding?  Is it possible some crime against someone could have occurred there?  I believe there are victims in every path he has crossed.  If you are a victim of Martin MacNeill or know of someone who was, please contact me.  I want to know of anyone else who may have fallen victim to his evil.

Does anyone in Blanding or Monticello Utah know about a big town meeting that was held regarding Martin? The meeting was apparently held at the Elementary School cafeteria regarding Martin’s medical credentials that supposedly had somehow been lost or something like that, and the meeting was packed with people. One thing the people wanted was proof that he was indeed a doctor.  Did anyone out there attend this meeting or know about it?

I believe there more to learn about Martin’s life in Blanding.